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Post by 3away on Dec 30, 2022 15:02:57 GMT -5
Just doing some light reading and noticed in his first year Flightline is going for $200,000 US a pop … Now I get he is a remarkable horse but $200,000 US is quite a lot for a freshman sire .. He will have the 5th highest stud fee in the world behind Dubawi , Frankel , Into Mischief and Curlin
How high will he be rated in the game by Mike with a stud fee of this price
I personally think that’s a bit high for a new stallion even though what he done on the track is remarkable in his limited starts .. Maybe $125,000 US would have been more of what I would have expected .. Saying that I’m not shocked at the price of Flightline , he’s the new shiny thing and his races are still fresh in everyones memory .. As far as ranking that’s a tough one for Mike , can u put him ranked above all these other proven stallions , I think he should sit somewhere in the top 10-15 stallions until we get some better stats from his foals
What are y’all thoughts on this ? Is his stud fee to high ? Should he be ranked in the game according to his stud fee ? Where do u think he will be ranked ?
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Post by Lmaris on Dec 30, 2022 16:23:22 GMT -5
There has not been a horse as dominant as Flightline since Frankel, and Flightline's margins of victory blow Frankel's out of the water.
American Pharoah's intro fee was that high.
Flightline's fee is not too high. Keep in mind he was a $1 million yearling, so has the bloodline and physical and now proven on the track. Breeders couldn't ask for more.
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Post by 3away on Dec 31, 2022 20:40:47 GMT -5
I get all that Lois , look at AP now his fee is down to 60k in 2023 .. Just because a fee is set high dosnt mean there going to be a great stallion .. I dont think a stallion who hasn’t proved anything in the shed as a freshman sire should be the 5th highest fee in the world is what I’m saying .. No doubt he will have great mares going to him and have every chance to be great
Mike has just announced that he will be rated as high as Frankel was as a freshman sire .. If we look at Frankels stats we get an idea where he will be ranked in the game , which appears to be top 10-15
Is it worth the 1000BPs to use a stallion ranked 10-15 when u can get horses with better rated for the same price 🤷♂️
Guess that’s the good thing about the game we all play it differently
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Post by Lmaris on Dec 31, 2022 21:34:30 GMT -5
A lot will come down to the stallion managers. American Pharoah had Coolmore where he was given massive books there has to be some fall-off in mare quality. Until they run you don't know for sure, but if the book is big and you only have a few good runners the value of all foals at sale decline and mare owners will look elsewhere. But Lane's End has said his book will be limited to under 150 mares I just love Lane's End's roster of stallions for 2023 |
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Post by 3away on Dec 31, 2022 22:07:39 GMT -5
Agree , but when u have the first TC winner in a minute well yeah 😂
I also love the stallions Land End has for 2023
I know there buying a lot of mares for Flightline , which makes me wonder how many outside mares are they going to allow if he’s only having 150
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Post by fdllodge20 on Dec 31, 2022 23:48:27 GMT -5
Will get one, two, three maybe even four to Flightline.😂
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Post by selurnivek on Jan 1, 2023 1:29:44 GMT -5
Bred 2 already lol... saw him in person. Majestic.
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Post by 3away on Jan 1, 2023 2:43:50 GMT -5
Nice Kevin goodluck with them
Personally I’m going to wait a few months to get a share , looking to get Frankel shares first , his stock has risen quite substantially this year and so will his rating have
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Post by jubalrutledge on Jan 2, 2023 18:53:08 GMT -5
who would you breed to him ds,dds ?
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Post by 3away on Jan 2, 2023 19:29:55 GMT -5
Storm Cat x Deputy Minister
Edit: realised u can’t do that combo if u want to scratch so maybe Giants Causeway x Deputy Minister
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Post by selurnivek on Jan 2, 2023 19:31:39 GMT -5
Bred two already for the Rez... used Storm Cat and Deputy Minister as the DS... strange enough, someone copied my exact breeding. Looks like Arrogate is leading the pack with 4 baby Flightlines
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Post by selurnivek on Jan 2, 2023 19:32:22 GMT -5
Oh and welcome aboard Jubal! Glad to have you
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Post by fdllodge20 on Jan 2, 2023 19:44:50 GMT -5
Welcome Jubal.
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Post by jubalrutledge on Jan 2, 2023 19:56:03 GMT -5
Its good to be here and thank you
I would use gone west x Smart strike
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Post by Lmaris on Jan 2, 2023 21:43:17 GMT -5
You can get a breeding in RL at the 2023 Thoroughbred Charities of America Stallion Season Auction on Jan 8th. Other stallion seasons are available for bid from Jan 4 morning thru Jan 6 evening. The live bidding on Flightline, Bolt d'Oro, and others will be held during the gala Jan 8th. Here's the catalog of stallion seasons offered |
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